# Domino's in Podcasts, Apr 27–May 3: Caught in the Value-War Trap > Two podcast conversations this week framed Domino's as both a durable value brand and a live read on lower-income consumer stress. The debate is whether strong brand equity is enough when quick-service rivals keep leaning harder into discounting. Based on my review of the available documents and podcast content, I can provide you with a newsletter based on podcasts from the last 5 days (April 29 - May 3, 2026): --- # Domino's Pizza (DPZ) Weekly Podcast Roundup **Week of April 29 - May 3, 2026** ## 📻 Featured Episodes This Week ### 1. **"Ad Age Marketer's Brief" (April 29, 2026)** **Guest: Kate Trumbull, CMO of Domino's Pizza** In the wake of Domino's Q1 2026 earnings miss, CMO Kate Trumbull sat down with Ad Age to address the disappointing results and outline the company's strategic response to intensifying competitive pressures.[1](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjnamAo84r9E9QIVecavvjzhsBoID1b8CkiKdfIZj-2B1CyvUmLI27QaUvJkZveBeU2ct9he4vmrWVKwT5filsLoer16z_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbV7WT0lNF8Jj7ur0mrM4fle3O4l0AnVBlbT1uDTOrg3F3t3NDEALkex1W556lCRx-2BTCF0gp-2FunV1yasxfZfTpHZ0GtzwYFFiQ62bmr74hIkL3p6S-2BRFjNfYrevoNufzX-2FzXx1CkO-2FcKoWslXk-2F-2FjTFaCQ-2FLiaXBD4vAReYg6fRhiQ-3D-3D) **Key Takeaways:** - Trumbull acknowledged that "consumer sentiment worsened" during Q1, contributing to same-store sales of just +0.9% versus expectations of +2.3%[1](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjnamAo84r9E9QIVecavvjzhsBoID1b8CkiKdfIZj-2B1CyvUmLI27QaUvJkZveBeU2eWeywY4b3wAmuvbK5LFiwM-zWH_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbV7WT0lNF8Jj7ur0mrM4fle3O4l0AnVBlbT1uDTOrg3F-2Fnu1rpsrQ0pnWwagiqbALEBTyPm3py3Q452Jw3j1ZvFgvP-2BYCi20UHmr9iJJvw7hi22L8JZBicz1zC-2B0Qp6AzP7toRNMFb0L99Hi6MKIHWxmtaPXrLMGIsht-2FCElezLPA-3D-3D) - She characterized the competitive landscape as a "sea of sameness" as rivals rush to launch deals, warning of a potential "race to the bottom"[1](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjnamAo84r9E9QIVecavvjzhsBoID1b8CkiKdfIZj-2B1CyvUmLI27QaUvJkZveBeU2dgfY5TPxZcFtq3XVZ5Sc7cbzZB_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbV7WT0lNF8Jj7ur0mrM4fle3O4l0AnVBlbT1uDTOrg3FyzfL-2BWW4n8eFATStifj-2F20T7BMB7nLU8exbXdUnbLDkXbfVqDms8Kb23stzUH-2F4INH2sT-2BT3uZ9mOTPMO4awK0HoAtGT8QBDOQpDGioNAvqFqvx-2B2iU0KCVJqbfh0sKXg-3D-3D) - The CMO emphasized Domino's decade-plus value equity as a key differentiator, noting competitors "throw out a price point that they can pull off really quickly" but lack credibility[1](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjnamAo84r9E9QIVecavvjzhsBoID1b8CkiKdfIZj-2B1CyvUmLI27QaUvJkZveBeU2fik8-2B-2BUVhNRoPvUzweRfVa95NE_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbV7WT0lNF8Jj7ur0mrM4fle3O4l0AnVBlbT1uDTOrg3F3clb-2BWAhcqDcO0i3lczPtoe3Tw0JScXSBwNPsHK9eNgpwV0lONRM3sQV0gLBmetfzPi7JNLAnFALt6EDCyR8uRL0EaOGQA9lMenVjjqrmH-2B-2FreIdo2S87Phw-2BkNw14V8w-3D-3D) - Trumbull detailed the company's first brand refresh in 13 years—a 22-month process rolled out across 90+ countries[1](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjnamAo84r9E9QIVecavvjzhsBoID1b8CkiKdfIZj-2B1CyvUmLI27QaUvJkZveBeU2cfqLCm2iCLC95X2qv6rYuMtwD2_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbV7WT0lNF8Jj7ur0mrM4fle3O4l0AnVBlbT1uDTOrg3FxB3YYRONndNAC-2BXR4E6FaGyryDft236oaj77QX4SacOCdsDBSN6ZtxP06A0ohipqWLQ5y4Zuoy4oOR2yOKgIaVTglV4nPNu1bBtlQ6wbQK8ZUN-2FNEk3OdF0SoUxINPi5w-3D-3D) - She positioned pizza as an "affordable luxury" akin to the "lipstick phenomenon," arguing consumers don't give up small indulgences even in tough times[1](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjnamAo84r9E9QIVecavvjzhsBoID1b8CkiKdfIZj-2B1CyvUmLI27QaUvJkZveBeU2fMU50jEhmIE3vLWsHa708iWcjr_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbV7WT0lNF8Jj7ur0mrM4fle3O4l0AnVBlbT1uDTOrg3F75wDbr66fVqBHOtajEt1nGuQarUbIUUcOOhNsynTUm3Zafhu2kch08cFBEfe-2FqKJWwGUiqhFMu0QekoTisCUIwTbYvlU2U0hzIU7IkLmefWaR9apu1BWLlj3voV9qYDoQ-3D-3D) **Strategic Priorities:** - Premiumization within value: Premium Series with black and gold packaging, Sliced Sauce offered free with premium pizzas[1](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjnamAo84r9E9QIVecavvjzhsBoID1b8CkiKdfIZj-2B1CyvUmLI27QaUvJkZveBeU2dqx6GpKygLp3UaNRyMfep3Mh7P_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbV7WT0lNF8Jj7ur0mrM4fle3O4l0AnVBlbT1uDTOrg3F2lTZDOYrGLiRWf71MXG29K-2FJx-2FXsVh4tPOC3bvcrIRSS4PPuy4vgVXHNIIQ9hSz5rLU-2FaWrlqd3WZr1B9rsyqV5xMf4SbeCEjuv7cp9LzK71Wz-2BHXBfbnzdxtJv7NvDbA-3D-3D) - Core value offerings maintained: $9.99 "Best Deal Ever" (any pizza, up to 7 toppings) and $7.99 carryout deal[1](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjnamAo84r9E9QIVecavvjzhsBoID1b8CkiKdfIZj-2B1CyvUmLI27QaUvJkZveBeU2cw81PhjbkhH0C-2BlSGiIcsg_omx_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbV7WT0lNF8Jj7ur0mrM4fle3O4l0AnVBlbT1uDTOrg3F1Lga9EFPaWHigxGj51-2FgAHqgwU3Txyu5uYeGxxmY9U1qlTrVjdcTIwtMOSgK3o-2Bm1dFNNwr6qWttGrb-2BrwYstLk-2F5GQBQecjPkZQKb8Qhkf9IBWIjH-2FbfwUCtQmp3uO3Q-3D-3D) ### 2. **"The Real Eisman Playbook" (May 1, 2026)** **Guest: Steve Eisman, Legendary Investor** Steve Eisman used Domino's Q1 results as a primary exhibit in his "K-shaped economy" thesis, though he framed this as a macro call rather than a company-specific short.[1](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjnamAo84r9E9QIVecavvjzhsBoID1b8CkiKdfIZj-2B1CyvUmLI27QaUvJkZveBeU2d6lBGAbYXfTCNG-2BudblZaBiKEb_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbV7WT0lNF8Jj7ur0mrM4fle3O4l0AnVBlbT1uDTOrg3F65fYuD5x4-2F42Ybc8uMhKnVXIrW6PzhftDEdpvKFsUJww2sDOnZhN-2FZdSi1vwgOpCsi01cESHD42qU1sciDFJVYHIYhhT-2FRS08KLYBJmCd2rdsoD1e9EWXWm2N7Rljg4Rw-3D-3D) **Key Takeaways:** - Eisman argued the weak same-store sales reveal a "deep recession" among lower- and middle-income consumers who form Domino's core customer base[1](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjnamAo84r9E9QIVecavvjzhsBoID1b8CkiKdfIZj-2B1CyvUmLI27QaUvJkZveBeU2eaZnrog33jI7z86O9kSyFtAoXa_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbV7WT0lNF8Jj7ur0mrM4fle3O4l0AnVBlbT1uDTOrg3F-2F-2Fm-2FexMftlZ92-2FnlnR3Jeds1yrbutrT9N-2BflMEOoLDzW6fhyCXBoxz393thJ2bSlKlIi77pq08JEz3Zh26MXDQ7C0LQJJHudP-2FxYJZrIio-2FUI-2F2C4zOLCpAoegi2pvT6A-3D-3D) - He contrasted Domino's miss with Visa's strong spending data and Starbucks' +6.2% same-store sales, arguing spending strength is concentrated among higher-income cohorts[1](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjnamAo84r9E9QIVecavvjzhsBoID1b8CkiKdfIZj-2B1CyvUmLI27QaUvJkZveBeU2dLUfF4eoiWCFl7Nfh2OCkTlMI8_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbV7WT0lNF8Jj7ur0mrM4fle3O4l0AnVBlbT1uDTOrg3FyKIkQO0JtzOBqTJYPeqkZcB96KyXg4sde1qYU6KwSoVpDBFCEEKhPNe-2BzbLIqUfgXPZur7z9yCycQ3nSEFzaF6tE6TjtJn5sBifOXFJ2mMs64R4j6KmfcaQnBafZ6UFoA-3D-3D) - Notable quote: "When a pizza company shows weak same-store sales, it implies that the middle and low-end consumer is having a hard time. Remember, the market is amoral."[1](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjnamAo84r9E9QIVecavvjzhsBoID1b8CkiKdfIZj-2B1CyvUmLI27QaUvJkZveBeU2fMAFaZu8CG2k06nxXSPU1vExrS_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbV7WT0lNF8Jj7ur0mrM4fle3O4l0AnVBlbT1uDTOrg3F-2BdfOsZWQgX8IqjN4qBCRxMLnDnBzBLGerIkbhCao6mj4AgTK1dwiBAy-2BDAe7-2BOBZ3JcPtp-2Fi1WVYYiD8qI2v0XLgNXyCJRbq634BsRuBvrsyAUevKqTrfOhpfiAt4qDMg-3D-3D) - Stock context: DPZ fell ~8% on April 27 following earnings; Q1 EPS declined 5% year-over-year[1](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjnamAo84r9E9QIVecavvjzhsBoID1b8CkiKdfIZj-2B1CyvUmLI27QaUvJkZveBeU2fh3AvCLRIkfMU78B6qAZlNq_uP_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbV7WT0lNF8Jj7ur0mrM4fle3O4l0AnVBlbT1uDTOrg3F29t-2BSPWb4TNeg7uW5KwkjInywPU2UkwKSXOujbKDPG9LxjmyVcMN8AU251nBsXgGkgIGJyjn8SlE-2BMryjpQ-2BMW2gRjthDzWupP3WCwcsDjliceDpCEkcpJVmGH5lHAvHw-3D-3D) **Macro Implications:** - Eisman noted that while "a recession does not seem imminent at all" at the aggregate level, the bottom-of-the-K consumers are already struggling[1](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjnamAo84r9E9QIVecavvjzhsBoID1b8CkiKdfIZj-2B1CyvUmLI27QaUvJkZveBeU2dpzU8vWYC8KocPf8H-2FRhtVyjkT_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbV7WT0lNF8Jj7ur0mrM4fle3O4l0AnVBlbT1uDTOrg3F5whBNZXeg45IK20nCj7MyT0DJczvGvypiQFtIGtFw2bmwagjpigH2hpRXly1iovSqtsAG8-2Bv8TwdVaDyO2ugXHuRgXEHbIa-2FTsuiLNQqGSltGHoTBgEntSr-2BGtT44JTtw-3D-3D) - He highlighted the "amoral" nature of markets—equity indices continue to rise even as Domino's core customer base struggles[1](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjnamAo84r9E9QIVecavvjzhsBoID1b8CkiKdfIZj-2B1CyvUmLI27QaUvJkZveBeU2faFBzGjFgQlgO54jDEqGY0-TAd_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbV7WT0lNF8Jj7ur0mrM4fle3O4l0AnVBlbT1uDTOrg3F1URYSTbg8OU7bahJi-2Bb-2Bgy5z35pAsVjV4vbV3scHoiLyzc-2FnfV8yJjyiOnN2ytih3Xxp5SWpa991TlwdqrHd-2BkReD7Rl-2BnlIe-2B5YHudqTKXYvGHui8is0cJ3U-2Ba-2FD2qkw-3D-3D) --- ## 🎯 Investment Implications **Bear Case (Eisman's Macro View):** The Q1 miss signals structural headwinds that may persist regardless of execution quality. Consumer bifurcation means Domino's core demographic faces ongoing pressure. **Bull Case (Management's View):** Decade-plus value equity, operational excellence, technology moat, and global rebrand platform position the company to weather competitive intensity better than peers. **What to Watch:** - Upcoming Piper Sandler meeting on May 5 - Evidence of premium product mix shift - Competitive promotional intensity in QSR value wars - Consumer sentiment trends among middle/lower-income cohorts --- ## 📅 Looking Ahead With management meeting Piper Sandler analysts on May 5, investors should watch for updated commentary on: - Q2 2026 same-store sales trends - Effectiveness of the global rebrand - Competitive positioning as value wars intensify --- **Sources:** - [Ad Age Marketer's Brief](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOgVucON-2BuEo3W3rXpVaJR2G3WrLGULep-2BYvw4RFQotceDsDpzG68swSKOdet56xHx2-2BFahr1NT6vmVw7MauzIABRaXHCgRF1Iv7YgoHud7rgQ-3D-3DFitG_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbV7WT0lNF8Jj7ur0mrM4fle3O4l0AnVBlbT1uDTOrg3F8G3GW5uvHjTKf6nk2wdxpwYtbepJD2N3zVI4BQ-2B1kvWs93oNPYVaIIBcIOntw3A1bLGPNAJONMq0C9ucytS3aLWT6jhtIPhMEJKLHNqsM9UvzbN4f3nLERYvRm1l1-2FVCQ-3D-3D) - April 29, 2026 - [The Real Eisman Playbook](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOhcJqRGaurh8qNXZkBVnoKMPxDgC-2Fbh4S-2BUn3HQglsYVOQIMna8QR2TrQf6CFIemuxpoi-2B6LkIW4pPbglzPvw9wxSmMuogosi-2F2kYJnsomRoQ-3D-3DJxZg_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbV7WT0lNF8Jj7ur0mrM4fle3O4l0AnVBlbT1uDTOrg3FwCQQ-2FBGKE5UpFyhAX4ebex9Vqse4tabKb-2FJv1hgSwzcDkEjFoF2usi-2FptPJWVzWOqrZ7XyQnf69hxPZAMu89h2oH2NquXgyjRADJN-2BIUFHAWBdZe1N5DIkPrSHPs5GtBg-3D-3D) - May 1, 2026 *Note: No podcast appearances were found from the listed key executives (Russell Weiner, Sandeep Reddy, Kelly Garcia) or sell-side analysts during this period.* ## Additional web sources used: web[1](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NqBtcrVVjFhw9GEF3Ehl1EXJ-2BGCgtw05c1j85za2Uhq278pYvra2JmizYNrEcPl91Q-3D-3D-U2A_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbV7WT0lNF8Jj7ur0mrM4fle3O4l0AnVBlbT1uDTOrg3F-2FRGSJNx9O15HOTivHGo0jdIXlCmmai4MFdNDb7rN-2FyJnf-2FnF9UWh03SqOKXpZOCWDRPX49O1LbrT2X-2BidVF-2BPDI0q-2FKWsofAkgpusBjyQAlSHTCuMibG7uH2wwufnm2EQ-3D-3D), web[2](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7Ntbk9Psi-2FLFsCnVNdX0keg5csbFpzX3Vcny9oToG7K1Z595PbTKSXLefsrJ0vX68mg-3D-3DMMp4_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbV7WT0lNF8Jj7ur0mrM4fle3O4l0AnVBlbT1uDTOrg3Fxbe2iyKJgVXAMH1jFmy3GbTSG8NQWGwJVNvMjDGfKml-2FHTTEAoq-2FtZIA4QzeGJaE6TWLEKV6hQuXgzB4gPS9TRRB3R-2FrI07CfjPF8RKabCIqSL5TiAoatVoXBifqYdFvg-3D-3D), web[3](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7Nh2FZyfOthtu0ef6yC1z7ypGRjhCDBND3X3iM3WK5LthWMtmo7PM-2BbxyPJozRmbJmeQkqiulPbZcTY0Fr2Q9QhQ-3DF_nc_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbV7WT0lNF8Jj7ur0mrM4fle3O4l0AnVBlbT1uDTOrg3FyDvUdeFIAsWKWqoOcpSeBg1VhEsPYBNRhE5pcYB3tWNXhMNikNUTGu3wVTGACXJRn5SnPZ2Ghbgns0H2NMoDj94Qzl5Sb5ERjIUw7SZYA4ItL5yNo9603aAKNQDx-2FFWlg-3D-3D), web[4](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7Nth8Wt1k3ECnkBqEi9paNOBIfdnZP-2BUVZtsgZfEXMTiAIDXtaJQosmI6lpaKv4A-2FyZ0IHxOnnjKx3loZVHin9dA-3DMQsM_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbV7WT0lNF8Jj7ur0mrM4fle3O4l0AnVBlbT1uDTOrg3F-2FE3Fnygg-2FMwCpVElgi2FCrbLUSDxD8Wb6ty5DYa-2F1CPxPCz-2BoR071VajBMTiaHV4QnsghVTcPoBfhkAtFiITpKs236IJEmpahdIAw6G4Ep8nSqh6lDyml8EwbF6BH2W-2BA-3D-3D), web[5](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7Njem3OkJxowdsLYQ4NzdmFlFnOF3g6G5oVbcVhXqoe4mR8z-2BazUXKVR3YK7d1glhRXH5KSrfymtwy-2B8sVO0FT-2FXmIncEspirzdg1LH4Agcs9m2qz_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbV7WT0lNF8Jj7ur0mrM4fle3O4l0AnVBlbT1uDTOrg3F6OzIYTsKd8Sfn-2BMVEE12OvEJ754AkYD-2F-2F9G-2FkTWMvDeHedgrQtZ2IZno9J2OTzfw0dk1ye58cpx1hUKKwMW66XchU59NbBMGULsJuVTWPpYSE-2FPW-2FZcRqe0ANk0UKTPIg-3D-3D), web[6](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7Nv3CZjtfU-2FcYTfctEI9EVVgxkfbwv1E7YviPFeBQg77lNX0hslSoigvo0q8HJJJ-2BBw-3D-3DTfCt_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbV7WT0lNF8Jj7ur0mrM4fle3O4l0AnVBlbT1uDTOrg3FyV3P22OaMPQsfyGE1kDjO1I91QZjvGggU9sCJFYINmvONy0DG8XhKB3BXWPCRuahBZExHtMPZ-2B-2Fs1ykbhEUymI1cXMYeHIk04p3AdC5pBhE2H5ArHNgt6ksmJ3T5nz3uQ-3D-3D)