# Anthropic's $2 Trillion IPO Meets a 5% Treasury as OpenAI Rules Out a 2026 Listing - Capital Markets: IPOs, M&A & Exchanges - Week of September 29, 2026

> Capital Markets: IPOs, M&A & Exchanges for the week of September 29, 2026. Podcast synthesis on fading odds of an Anthropic IPO this year, OpenAI ruling out a 2026 listing, Oura and NScale on the IPO calendar, bank fees after the Fed's hike and a 5% 10-year, a coming wave of private-credit mergers, the Kalshi circuit split, and the fight over tokenized stocks.

## Capital Markets: IPOs, M&A & Exchanges

### Week of September 29, 2026: Anthropic's $2 Trillion IPO Meets a 5% Treasury as OpenAI Rules Out a 2026 Listing

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A month ago, the IPO market's big question was simple: how fast could the banks get Anthropic out the door?

Today the question is whether it gets out the door this year at all.

On All-In (Sep 26), Jason Calacanis pulled up the Polymarket contract on whether Anthropic lists in 2026. It "peaked at 96% earlier this month," he said, "but now it's fallen to 76%." ([All-In](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOhbMgf7s6U3nio1uemwrRjodFuSZDqWfZgdLfC1jOAvzguHsouJeEswSHcmX-2BngF0VSgK1fxQFurkWOgdd8q48wmk1mpdXsBr10aUSdFDLIKA-3D-3DlBAU_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UUmA9DMo7Vb21xWRtkJJFGOiueBO-2Fl4cDCTzlllG3W-2FvkZDddcpCZDK4QVr6QwHqCy6EZUyF6R-2FRXkbvrhz-2Fb-2BezIgw13d1S5maQD5XIMcRGb3MuiLtMsuUUenpZhWjXWw-3D-3D))

That 20-point slide is the story of September. It captures two separate problems hitting at once. One is specific to AI labs: the safety talk coming from their own leaders. The other hits everyone: the 10-year Treasury yield just went through 5% after the Fed *raised* rates. When safe government bonds pay 5%, a stock whose profits are mostly years away looks a lot less appealing.

Here is what the podcasts had to say about both, plus the deals, the exchanges, and the prediction-market fight now headed toward the Supreme Court.

## 1. Anthropic: The Biggest IPO Ever, or the Most Over-Hyped One?

*The setup.* Early in the month, it all looked like it was moving fast.

* On Bloomberg Intelligence (Sep 4), Bloomberg's Bailey Lipschultz reported that Anthropic expanded its pre-IPO revolving credit facility (a standing bank line of credit it can draw on) from a $10 billion target to *$15 billion*, three times the $5 billion SpaceX had before its listing. "It shows that this IPO is going to happen sooner than later," he said. ([Bloomberg Intelligence](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOg8-2BHi4Sp9qO605DXc5jKBVc4SkTmi8tTL2JLpm24G8mG3ej1KJFD0MNmmz6cu0Di2Tg-2FTLUbRIadkAxq-2FHHd8NSRzV7-2BieLxM2UmefQf-2Beqg-3D-3DPKcF_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UUDaBNCdSF1IVxrSmp7pgq8x11zgzyTDenIo-2FeJe7-2FmucSoQVmNrp-2Fqhx-2BkDDFd7onYWpMhmqx5n40NyXK0wBlStBsrYV01jUm2Q99-2FoS4rCz9AbSHGVRAc4zPzjRH3QHg-3D-3D))
* The bank line-up matters because it usually previews who runs the IPO. Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan led, with Citigroup, Barclays and Wells Fargo in key roles, and BofA, Deutsche Bank, RBC and UBS in a "second line." Lipschultz called it "a potentially record-setting fee event" for the banks' equity capital markets (ECM) desks, the teams that sell new shares to investors. ([Bloomberg Intelligence](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOg8-2BHi4Sp9qO605DXc5jKBVc4SkTmi8tTL2JLpm24G8mG3ej1KJFD0MNmmz6cu0Di2Tg-2FTLUbRIadkAxq-2FHHd8NSRzV7-2BieLxM2UmefQf-2Beqg-3D-3Dz7ZF_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9USUBjSevSU0s1kDDwgGkJLgq4Gn6uvh7RhLlrqLINc5IBiSSyuQZ2Mx0g9wCwBQhh6GykgeB1oRNdIT7-2FOJIWJMBVVtHPmWSLbo3ctYGl9VG-2FbiyRu9jcVY26N2hmHZVvw-3D-3D))
* He also recalled how fierce the SpaceX bake-off got: "mock-up rockets in the lobbies of Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley," with Goldman promoting that it was "lead left" (the top-billed bank) and Morgan Stanley answering that it was "stabilization agent" (the bank that supports the price after trading begins). ([Bloomberg Intelligence](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOg8-2BHi4Sp9qO605DXc5jKBVc4SkTmi8tTL2JLpm24G8mG3ej1KJFD0MNmmz6cu0Di2Tg-2FTLUbRIadkAxq-2FHHd8NSRzV7-2BieLxM2UmefQf-2Beqg-3D-3DS53e_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UXQoB4yu01X5q4cq8rZ9sAOTsexGzpeJ4nwrxo0Chtg9XbbfOnB218x-2BpNtxFAjMwBgTBWfh5vro6YQWatme9YXrvExgkSYxMkwy5cHw9ZYKqdnLnin8Nge46FEJ3p4iTg-3D-3D))
* On Rich Habits (Sep 11), the hosts laid out the price tag: Wall Street aiming for *$2 trillion+*, more than double Anthropic's $965 billion private valuation in May. To justify that, revenue has to grow from a $47 billion run rate in May to $120 billion by the end of 2026 and $200 billion by 2028. ([Rich Habits Podcast](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjSrCzxpYEtwwQxJV9EaCbK6ceC62iFulSuxEzNgsWOyvC0STviHQB2J6QdAT0ORpnQ0DdlgSoINfgoC0qSIE6O9snxVPffIt05DUJPyKDurQ-3D-3DW2Cz_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UXJYya5TgSjdZG5LtJkr6Ck-2F4WnT6MJKp-2FjPavxtx-2B-2BaiPoQA9qHL9snmwyzYl5gJRvec9I4KtNSGt9uctHxBeEYZJjclh2vI3p1wOLO5qzdrpX-2FI8nU8Oe-2FIrBZLHFkEA-3D-3D))

*Then the timeline slipped.* Different podcasts give different dates, which says something by itself:

* Squawk Pod (Sep 14) said the target had already moved from August, to after Labor Day, to "as soon as next month." ([Squawk Pod](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOirhzPegG85cXoUgPxDb7aSESUgHO6IShCs342Ho-2B1PesRd8tFHfeWqz69WogwenZj-2BINa9h3hpLsquOZkx79emsUPHye-2FRKW1Azg-2BYxY2-2BXA-3D-3DL-bM_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UZ4XPfaoc9lzf9dvaingtdEMd-2Fvp9BH-2F6aj3UxpY7E8ypbALTT1NuOQOAUVqoWytyIsB6GHh1z6har-2BAYBrrrZQ4a6-2BxtSxbPEVpNHLHTbiByk-2FO9qkln9uB0k9XZ3QVWw-3D-3D))
* Pivot (Sep 22) reported a push from October to November, with expectations of $100 billion in annualized revenue by year-end, up from $65 billion in July. The hosts doubted it closes by year-end. ([Pivot](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOiYwB7O7yY1rS-2B2XWYjKtX-2BexvSx6Gq21l0I4L7vwlcdiklD1Cuf8NHtkqhi7DEd-2FPUuu09TMmj5Es38HF8z-2BIaIQ8Q0O69lu04Erg5HEEdNg-3D-3D5rnX_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UUDxse14Fs32Tbw7xEmWWhCO9VdMSV0dFPVgP5eNahgqBoN11WgaJjH-2FBqeBdxKrTJ0E0MK7tjvPNqYsWk968eTm-2B-2Bpvj11smsmhq7JYwV2TAZNTyFHjjzRjTHqKyoqp-2Bw-3D-3D))
* On 20VC (Sep 24), one speaker argued that waiting until November, so the Q3 numbers can go into the filing, is the smart move. He said he was 90% confident in that timing and put the risk of the market souring first at 10%. ([20VC](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOiBE7YgbrZzuoWlbXpphJdgZzmz84OQfWqZlprYNHnXCrUcSBOo9YAu94Vne6nEkay-2B17QnxL69jK-2FiuJ8pTq7prf96kE8-2B0-2F0T1nk927Z0DA-3D-3DvAnB_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9Udz5aGFVHCZDFtHFBLvWdASpI64GKTfubKbu4CG8d-2BK3eN31AQWjMbK-2Bry21aGsoulXFd0PFUtTicFd9wfnlw-2BFnZJGP55uvVpRS9qKQvj2lYP0pqhbLDFMf6udiOeCPGg-3D-3D))
* On the plus side, Closing Bell Overtime (Sep 14) reported that sources say Anthropic still plans to list this year and has posted *two quarters in a row of adjusted profitability*. ([Closing Bell](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOhyTbtAio-2BEXxcA19Tpn-2BgxHQeQ5COC-2Fqk-2Fbeja-2B30eR3CRZYcFFWnVLYLASvtdTbSofjcEFiIwj0Gyyo6prjDNPYwXbsJFYPU7F0QhavUPhQ-3D-3DRhUO_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UbptyeZmdABJw6WKhqt6oYobMTU6KOj0A2uXodTGtle2lMOmvKZqzvALaVUoC0n5hB-2FHlvAVUZGJOLqarD8MtEmUIWIY-2FOOtQ4dCrgZFMz-2FEodK-2FKg7eLmr7-2B8uiDigZ0g-3D-3D))

*The All-In debate was the sharpest discussion of the month.* David Sacks laid out why investors are nervous:

> "You have current leadership in the company saying that there's a greater than 10% chance of causing human extinction... So think about the risk factors that's creating. How do you IPO with your own management of the company saying that?" ([All-In](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOhbMgf7s6U3nio1uemwrRjodFuSZDqWfZgdLfC1jOAvzguHsouJeEswSHcmX-2BngF0VSgK1fxQFurkWOgdd8q48wmk1mpdXsBr10aUSdFDLIKA-3D-3D3uTv_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UcnExuUvaP8n-2BdgzaT6hqVrp4Nve8STpG1-2B3cKWB07ICh3STSs4OEv9-2FVIiIK1rSDmfCcLMXt7O4aApBZk1jKjKl0eJh3vT7kn4opXZ93NGT24kVnuPD24xD3rppxNkR1Q-3D-3D))

Sacks also flagged a governance fight. He said the founders reportedly own only "about 2% ownership each," and investors are debating whether to give CEO Dario Amodei super-voting shares. These are shares that carry extra votes, so founders keep control even without owning most of the company. That structure, he said, "requires a tremendous degree of trust in those founders because they effectively can't be removed." ([All-In](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOhbMgf7s6U3nio1uemwrRjodFuSZDqWfZgdLfC1jOAvzguHsouJeEswSHcmX-2BngF0VSgK1fxQFurkWOgdd8q48wmk1mpdXsBr10aUSdFDLIKA-3D-3DDhd4_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UXcMHla5E1U2I6NYA88ihcQ5DlgiQFDwEr7fdr8nUmy9YPD10es0a716siFA-2FarcdJr-2FIeumk-2BL9cm04N-2FUj7ed4fJ5VfIImuj73J-2FBtPSX327mFUppSPzfN-2Fx1mWSbGtg-3D-3D))

Chamath Palihapitiya disagreed with replacing Amodei. He said he would keep him, because Amodei "built essentially the greatest business ramp in all time." But he thinks the price has to come down:

> "Even if you think that they're on $100 billion run rate, what would otherwise in a very clean sheet IPO maybe would have been a $2 trillion market cap. Now, you know, you're at one or less... It's probably going to clear at a much lower price than anybody thinks." ([All-In](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOhbMgf7s6U3nio1uemwrRjodFuSZDqWfZgdLfC1jOAvzguHsouJeEswSHcmX-2BngF0VSgK1fxQFurkWOgdd8q48wmk1mpdXsBr10aUSdFDLIKA-3D-3DQzAc_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UQFxxzg6GH-2BiigPfZgljOAe4yigIzAqACPl-2BO0bWqMNrU1DmOvExmr-2BvwHhgHBsIKyxpPcKWoUYKHDEpAhLV9g5XTT3Q56Uf6-2BU4xCJqdkAwY6Z4VyMfmkyYkhnwWpdYYg-3D-3D))

His reasoning is worth spelling out. Pension funds, mutual funds and hedge funds have a legal duty to their own investors, so they will "justify all the risks by essentially asking for a lower and lower price." He also added a telling detail about hiring: "I've tried to recruit against Ant. I can't... I have not won a single bake-off." ([All-In](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOhbMgf7s6U3nio1uemwrRjodFuSZDqWfZgdLfC1jOAvzguHsouJeEswSHcmX-2BngF0VSgK1fxQFurkWOgdd8q48wmk1mpdXsBr10aUSdFDLIKA-3D-3Dydyc_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UULxgO5cQZjYJAYoI5qmMSNdLoEksyE1Nr7DVqAIy1vNtjvGEwbS7bhJi2pQ1M8f4nVZvVIsDkyZaiVWphSfvJNlknGJ-2FL8VpUeb7yqpedJlh2W5Iv-2FUTiGa5mWSEIsN0A-3D-3D))

*Patrick Boyle did the math, and it's brutal.* On Patrick Boyle On Finance (Sep 27), he pointed out that at $2 trillion, Anthropic would trade at about *31 times revenue*. He then took the most generous assumptions he could: no costs, no staff, no taxes, every dollar of revenue paid to shareholders forever, discounted only at the Treasury rate. Even then, "all of that revenue forever is worth about $1.27 trillion today, about three quarters of a trillion short. So almost all of the $2 trillion is a bet on growth." ([Patrick Boyle On Finance](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjpQAbw3rfG2iqZJnEBheycbzs0jvIdTyXGiJpmtxG0gulOy8ntSjUvmocZZDfpG8E8lCF9uQhbRPnlqGLcXk1eL6Qw2SWAKSEVkTvRQB7XoA-3D-3Dh1x6_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UaUlx9JYsN7M5GbbpkfO0qDNTsBEVRMtSxqWi8bIagixZdLF6rNjep74-2Fxs5BZLSgBovpUQ0rvVyVFM-2BRM0eA-2Bs514-2Fsa6mzTz7-2FfiD-2FMMWzh0op7qjnc6hcZHNIb4edtg-3D-3D))

He brought back Scott McNealy's famous 2002 quote about Sun Microsystems at 10 times revenue ("Do you realise how ridiculous those basic assumptions are?") and noted Anthropic would be priced at three times that multiple. ([Patrick Boyle On Finance](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjpQAbw3rfG2iqZJnEBheycbzs0jvIdTyXGiJpmtxG0gulOy8ntSjUvmocZZDfpG8E8lCF9uQhbRPnlqGLcXk1eL6Qw2SWAKSEVkTvRQB7XoA-3D-3DLnHT_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UbZee-2FMCqXj-2BpyAqPWWBxcX5v08jzS0K-2BoLBofMNvSpDHG9jiOs6680i0kEMGvFtMRb7f41E7o8ac1FJCDd3n9xGbshS973ws6y-2BlMaX70QeanxqxnJ8giePjWd3K0e3lg-3D-3D))

*The Nvidia angle.* The Elon Musk Podcast (Sep 14) reported that Nvidia would anchor the deal with up to $10 billion of a raise of as much as $100 billion. The hosts argued this is circular money: AI funding flows through startups, which pay for chips and computing, which flows back to Nvidia ([Elon Musk Podcast](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOgJP0nKjRX8pGe0D2HK6TtT5NmWZ1U8YgcamfRHg4b39aNTgNSHyiB5oHsVWyM66I3iAHaqMFOk9ODSFr7T5WOJsfFQvfvds-2BTSpMLyXMDvEw-3D-3DPPPl_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UQypyd1e8yFUtaDxNti-2By4lb5d9yZvpCc4NJdfjmcbSIBh6j7aeiiz4BcTHV4mxJ-2FF7wmjqI2oACuBelgyKBzHdobBXeeGdVWaxaibWCaUPOBF-2BSCkbURLuuP3KEMADCWg-3D-3D)). Boyle raised the same concern with a second example. Filings for SB Energy, SoftBank's data center developer, show Nvidia bought $1.5 billion of its shares in August at a 10% discount to the eventual IPO price, will buy another $1.5 billion at the IPO, and has agreed to guarantee up to $105 billion for SB Energy's Ohio campus, which OpenAI is leasing. ([Patrick Boyle On Finance](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjpQAbw3rfG2iqZJnEBheycbzs0jvIdTyXGiJpmtxG0gulOy8ntSjUvmocZZDfpG8E8lCF9uQhbRPnlqGLcXk1eL6Qw2SWAKSEVkTvRQB7XoA-3D-3DoBh4_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UZ-2BC4dL-2F3Kyq95AGt2iKZVFjL1NI51nHECX01HX-2BTkGEslGHerRpJWkatTECioo5zuHBPiXkjOp1c85u3OzMi7RvExsFvfvcNNUlbhu0-2B5xnoZ7MtapOaWZW0FyncGsUDg-3D-3D))

*Why it matters for everyone else.* On The Meb Faber Show (Aug 31), Paul Kedrosky estimated that if SpaceX, Anthropic and the other giant AI names all list, new stock issuance could hit "more like five and a half trillion, which is, makes the top of my head pop off." His concern: big fund managers will have to sell their most liquid winners to raise the cash to buy these new shares, which puts pressure on today's market leaders. ([The Meb Faber Show](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOipxkE8MlJ-2BqvKlek8bidbRQ8oQmrGx9X28NQP1EQc6uo2tGv4WQwA1wWOKhhvflRfkQS0UncYdhxhEyx8RNo9TZiHdJRRfgDApyT29VU8MBA-3D-3DP_f-_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9USYmakIsASRHOvQU4HT78zZecN3dXGYyzqKsuFhHbGk65x3CJNGLEq4mjuqW44E5gBAAmyfmdFf-2Bf9vBgVFfCBMSIqzd9VQAqm0cpsGWaCH8s-2BZzJmJp7wTSHhNDsEnFnQ-3D-3D))

## 2. OpenAI: Not This Year

Sam Altman closed the door on a 2026 listing.

* On Squawk on the Street (Sep 14), Altman was quoted saying "no IPOs this year," and that it would be "ill-advised given the safety concerns." One commentator saw it as Altman trying to "throw a wrench in anyone else's plans." ([Squawk on the Street](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjvuWJrU1VYikli-2FOvFCgAAH5fndBMzGCr-2Fr8S-2F4GzeRacDKVlbZ8vwU4C1V2TohMoax8t8DDH4GFPpPQWZa-2BUTJ70nPvvNw1tXUpkseC2OPA-3D-3D5ntv_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UU02xDtQwQo2QvBa1kHwieKju1gkbuLNfkVxOC7pdDsd-2FwkTdOtyjcbGD4-2Fz-2FYFUljQMvZaY-2BrbOCH9U83vm8ii1Q58-2F7n4cgYURRfgWXXLJjBYNuDr5B-2FLOXCS6p9F3Kg-3D-3D))
* Big Technology Podcast (Sep 19) reported that OpenAI is raising private money at a *$1.5 trillion* valuation instead, up from $730 billion, on about $40 billion of annualized revenue. ([Big Technology Podcast](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOgJsijPvVUy7M6xmdSqnnf5ZBDEIWIfn9OrFso67kSZ7LVRIe-2BEFPxvli5RalCyRMd0RiKlLXhhcPjxyQezHD5WZZFfg5vFCRWxV2I8A3UUOQ-3D-3DltpB_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UZyhWbPW0tXUzzM4QEFO-2By-2BHQPeQmDGGMQ-2BSj3aWCIqE1Dn8Am98CysUpKPTFG8knZ2GLunBy6eAMfGgUt40yQfaeAPL7ylmXRl9cm9iMZgu0EjbPds3GfRAvBodvYAQEA-3D-3D))
* On Moonshots (Sep 17), the hosts noted OpenAI raised $122 billion at an $852 billion post-money valuation in March. They also pointed out that its nonprofit-controlled structure lets it make decisions "against shareholder interests," which is a hard thing to take public. ([Moonshots with Peter Diamandis](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOicTimruCYijkgVUWrbTYDfjEG85QPme7ExYzIgsmZMnvmin7uyXskDyQ-2BcKQ5v5ouaP9pVbqbJ55kuqqq4TlYRdE-2B737FUMtBQiwhUnjYrvg-3D-3DOyIV_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9Ua-2BLDm433UJPwQ-2FA8v-2BPCgyXDBNzGAXOBsLjwt5GGdVgLhlHu9QWgyjWZSm5O3WVO7NLVOPAr4z-2By5Y70QaY6CSI7F3rylguFRzrt9ML8-2FMhaSW2piE0LWZGMViRXtUL2g-3D-3D))
* The Enterprise AI Show (Sep 27) walked through the cost side. Revenue went from $4 billion (2024) to $13 billion (2025) to a ~$40 billion run rate (2026). Expenses went from $13 billion to $34 billion to a projected $70–80+ billion. On top of that are *$650–700 billion in off-balance-sheet commitments* for data centers and chips, meaning obligations that don't show up as debt on the balance sheet. ([The Enterprise AI Show](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOiLV-2Bo26hr9UyMjuAVsxH3mICzgoe4JAWNnvzIboqVMgS-2BrN5TWJkxdDf1oKqQCnxPvNdq9AWKSn-2FkecWvhz4egMXTsyLdtj45-2BPzweYXtksg-3D-3Ds2XW_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UbTnZObz8mUxX-2BaAp6XsqQGXVy8SDvypuUCRnmnJzO8hkebRJmXXTdRr5DXT6Fnw2RbX-2FPnZQGLL-2FeN4XekebJnDm8vkfgnJ1Y-2BdRfHVsg8pnWKbN6AqM8r4IiorHgE5-2Bw-3D-3D))

## 3. The Rest of the IPO Calendar: A Few Winners, More Stalls

Boyle summed up the strange backdrop: the Nasdaq is at a record, yet "IPOs are getting pulled." Holtec, the nuclear power company, postponed its IPO citing market conditions. SB Energy filed before Labor Day and still hasn't started marketing. "There have been just three IPOs since Labor Day, and five of the ten largest listings this year are now trading below their offer prices." ([Patrick Boyle On Finance](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjpQAbw3rfG2iqZJnEBheycbzs0jvIdTyXGiJpmtxG0gulOy8ntSjUvmocZZDfpG8E8lCF9uQhbRPnlqGLcXk1eL6Qw2SWAKSEVkTvRQB7XoA-3D-3Dj-wb_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UWgJl5uNSurvgqXAmvPBGzLztwUDVH1a9vnZBQVLQMo0yH-2BCjMswyKF4TjvBPdUfuL9RxYUO6XsCX899K3NfdsvSJYXMS4cp1j6bXazRaFqRcrL9X9hTKVWTw32NPFgq4w-3D-3D))

*Oura is the one everyone seems to like.*

- Brew Markets (Sep 8) laid out the filing: $1.4 billion in revenue (up 74% year over year), $60 million in net income, and 5 million paid subscribers with 85% 12-month retention. It will list on Nasdaq as OURA. The hosts' worry: Fitbit and Peloton both show how consumer fitness gadgets can fade. ([Brew Markets](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOhzg7aejXUpGltk9pv-2F3vnssAZ2a-2FpUDbTfcaYj-2B-2FSCRHE97DbN0oYdvTD9IHGv6jefTfq64gDY5Ah7ycxBPdQFrAF4ew8ZOEy3i67TS0YfhA-3D-3DyZDL_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UYbRCAhfbX-2FLClDva2jU32Ur4NXZ2WVloQeU-2BMfIMeeBaHGYWWPbxQKTTgNW1CnBf42FRSv-2FCW6-2FLRf0KAaNARickh8JdixRiKc0Oen3DOGfFFV6I9pBGwxTdt4Fu24XKw-3D-3D))
- On Pivot (Sep 25), one host predicted it prices next week and does very well. He cited 83–88% renewal rates on the $6/month subscription ("stronger than software"), a customer base that is 70% female with a popular fertility tracker, and health data collected 23 hours a day. ([Pivot](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOgFHIqycaTAKMqgCIzNXcWSYBkG-2FnBLvSzQACjYF38uQIPoZetfsmmMTIOe35w2xDkjvloQYaHevHmlDPHRUbqcDM79JhXAeIyljTjHd13yjA-3D-3DPIZn_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UfAiTWGfR7RkpRK7-2Bgm6YjAieqc9EoSXkHpjfLsOYO-2FnVpd5aVJHzkIEE42Dnc2CTDEI4MCXS-2FeLLAzI8ky0EghZSFyyKVdrFQ5fTAfbrZt7nWpnwIkckXFLpK1SoC5XWA-3D-3D))
- Market Maker (Sep 21) counted *18 underwriters* led by Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, JPMorgan and Bank of America. The surprise name on the list is Robinhood Securities. Before, the host explained, "the big banks would get all of the money, all of the allocations for a big IPO. And then it would be Robinhood going, hey, can I have a slice of that, please?" Now Robinhood has "a seat at the table," even if it's "size six font," and its share goes straight to its wealthier retail customers. ([Market Maker](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOiSPtXIaHZK58nJuX01MO2-2BlPX-2FeoIDmNRn4DzhHjCHB3CaqRKiXxne-2FwGtpobnYEwfk-2BgLwyT6nXODt8p9zHWSJM3wXWMlbnV5lYdfzJeuaA-3D-3Dvos-_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UVkAL3efNTGpRoevI87R1rIxDKi3rTA3xow-2BlJaWkMFSBAB1L23H6HkwkosbwzNJyJIt3r8MTUMP12pJGerPoYWt2GA-2Bm1BnBDFsS7FEEXKCM1-2FIZ7yQsSScDyax2oVT3A-3D-3D))

*NScale is the one the skeptics are circling.* On Run the Numbers (Sep 24), the host broke down the S-1 (the IPO filing) for this two-year-old UK "neocloud," a company that rents out AI chips. It filed for the NYSE as NSCL at a targeted *$35 billion* valuation, up from $14.6 billion in March. ([Run the Numbers](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOh90gEbbvIhq0-2BhqFoWgYCoOnTmPRW1xSEq6mNskA2-2BJvo-2B0lZ1WpBYPRDuhyUuWSU3DyFp2bQ4jGsVD9VvaANsEwIlwlDsj4UTojXW7-2FWc-2Bg-3D-3DMhgg_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UTnHYZeTf3IsrH6aKRUd-2BlZowPswPQZTleM37Zx44wT4BVvDzFMV6EGyAdpxCH9ti8-2FvTwrbKizYsxHnCeFkMltr2TzNvxu-2Fo8aX738W7-2FQMl3LtZtVvTUT8YI4Gf6gZKA-3D-3D))

- In 2024, hosting crypto miners made up 93% of revenue, so 2025 is its first full year as an AI company.
- "Cost of revenue was $190 million against $141 million of revenue. About negative 35% before depreciation." Once you include the wear-and-tear cost of its chips, "gross margin gets to negative 159%. That is gross margin, not profit margin." ([Run the Numbers](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOh90gEbbvIhq0-2BhqFoWgYCoOnTmPRW1xSEq6mNskA2-2BJvo-2B0lZ1WpBYPRDuhyUuWSU3DyFp2bQ4jGsVD9VvaANsEwIlwlDsj4UTojXW7-2FWc-2Bg-3D-3D3ePP_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UfMu3cWy9THMEYMe-2F3gaChyFCAZtWrwgIWjuRtbNFG6aSf-2B2ZT11tRLrVjNYKA-2BE4TXNzd1cU6SrWoeZ7-2FFcMSaIpnnwKCrpd8Lz-2FjkFBp53PDf8rJE493u8mowbF-2F9Kyg-3D-3D))
- Its $103.4 billion in future commitments are about 85% Microsoft ($43.8 billion through 2033) and Anthropic ($44.6 billion). Only $2.6 billion is active today, and the Anthropic portion has no committed financing. ([Run the Numbers](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOh90gEbbvIhq0-2BhqFoWgYCoOnTmPRW1xSEq6mNskA2-2BJvo-2B0lZ1WpBYPRDuhyUuWSU3DyFp2bQ4jGsVD9VvaANsEwIlwlDsj4UTojXW7-2FWc-2Bg-3D-3DpsHr_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UVzWhDweWEhZGpWEU7wsbplie3S20GO7JpSaR6Ev0XU6jZaDdg9EC2SROGN-2FeIekPHhlE6nIf-2FF5yDCADV9Rhd0mj4sbZT-2BghQcFczaMcAUX9tR3bBJGvqq1FcIbmDqMPQ-3D-3D))

*SpaceX, a reminder of how big deals trade.* Networth and Chill (Sep 23) recapped the record: $75 billion raised plus another $10 billion from the greenshoe (an option for the banks to sell extra shares when demand is strong), priced at $135, opening at $150, closing day one at $160.95, and reaching $225 the following week before settling back around $140–160. The host's advice to regular investors was blunt: "Right now, probably not." Her reason: "IPOs have been a losing bet versus investing in the broader market since 2019." ([Networth and Chill with Your Rich BFF](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOju5YNVFJ0U-2BEGgvCfhsBp9MaCvaoMepVMAXYCxJ-2FKh1S7uVDqbPlWFZqXuvYlOfZiHagxyKNTZIJ-2BCXpo0pwY6f4NEW3HBLWytYOAlTkkUUg-3D-3DXHO__7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UdinQU8f3TZe2Cqib06KkwJHFHSRHDaU3I9h3ZbfCGvu7WV-2F-2B8u3TlNXOmDtXhM3gh1JPG9RqPu6WMNj0I2ltAU1P4a2AQa9sAMeIfmKxk6mSbrvCxqi-2FVTyfzt95LieEQ-3D-3D))

*Elsewhere in the pipeline:*

- *Shein* listed in Hong Kong at about a $26 billion valuation, down from more than $100 billion privately in 2022. It fell as much as 10% before closing flat. The Rundown (Sep 1) blamed the end of the "de minimis" tariff exemption for cheap parcels, plus competition from Temu and TikTok Shop. ([The Rundown](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOhc7abj6xChX5JxyNvB2gWxWFmrJoEeTXBpbnMtet65I1Z3qnq3jvPfMFATpTBsjSa7tCi-2BLlozMddKM6ixxcsgyG9PSNJU-2Bq8c9vEQSTA0XQ-3D-3DubVI_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9Ud3NN5AL-2BZjq0pjX76oSKiaeBrx-2F0begyfhEkdfSrpnWofJHVU6yLOzgKjuQTl-2BuL522wuQSk0sWzZ3epJL63hTV5G79mt5G-2FmDgkg4VbTteuhM0ZJMSGK9rAYa5MrxqWg-3D-3D))
- *Dangote Petroleum Refinery* is Africa's largest-ever IPO. It is seeking up to $2 billion, runs Sep 14–Oct 13, has a $4 minimum, and aims for 10 million shareholders. On Next Africa (Sep 25), Feyi Fawehinmi was skeptical. He argued the refinery copies Dangote's cement playbook: pricing at the cost of imports while collecting heavy government support. ([Next Africa](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOiK17dfxLleTxVSH8RBdSL-2Fvi9h-2BtQuSZjh-2BpHeLpYmxlTjsfr2KpIlKXoOksokIzDDRRYEJ-2BVQFaUo12wUwV4XsgENjsJgla16H6UGUV8JyA-3D-3DZhXt_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UcMkOUDdqKWpOg5d7OY671Rz3qXzEG2GR1fcqqnOufpAigyGHYarPq0ItgA1pPb2Q-2B4bn8rixIfJmxMwJs3QVWKOZ8lGgg7All-2Bf8QYJc1b-2FHkI5lITX77mU-2FK0rCGSckQ-3D-3D))
- *Hub International*, the insurance broker: The Insurance Guys (Sep 9) framed its IPO at a ~$29 billion valuation as the first real test of the private-equity broker roll-up model. Private rounds went from $4.4 billion to $10 billion (2018) to $23 billion (2023). If public investors price it below the private marks, that repricing hits every sponsor-backed broker. ([The Insurance Guys Podcast](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOiDWLF-2F6WHXVZm4pLn9brN5Gb4VIsTpIbpWlp-2F6wusI2UjxwmK7eipabCqIwmeWcrgljbBZ0t0GjBgAJgUNT0DK-2BTJaUAErers5wKDd6D4HuQ-3D-3D3Qhe_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9Ue51yCdGc-2Fqese2j-2Bc8Wz9LzMJHRyk9cYg03Bz9Rl-2BUFMRsMZw90QIpDA6a946SEUCMIrMplXV7pv0VzIXC5eiHebI1m-2FvLTgy0RNIWRwXvDEqvxEhTMkE9ZcNubzKtDzA-3D-3D))
- *Next in line:* ElevenLabs has hired a CFO and is exploring an IPO, with $600 million of annualized revenue expected by year-end, up from $350 million ([The AI Daily Brief](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOigH4U3E8D06-2BmXh13c7z5EaEYOqXpXw5bNBlbLtKxwzRKLk-2F5wvMg-2BTlhjW7KoP3zesHON2943hzJP9VmXHsluHVPgfwM08Mif0ffGj4qmhQ-3D-3Dmluv_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UbAzTSnjznAhrD2bTlIRGaJGTvG1Hu2A5Hp4r-2BWU9UNjNYfDCX3s15hYnYdGCc3rhrzitQ7vWMn0fV4tIo6M1kuDg8GDbuf-2FS0N5epIDKj4ibaEkbvkYy90KWT4eodyjqw-3D-3D)). This Week in Startups (Sep 23) named Stripe and Databricks as the likely next listings after the top tier ([This Week in Startups](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOg1A2Nlu7pS2C4YcGhNq4XySRKlFSAvvsowjxGouM1dOhOqnK7bFxur66rulp7kHq1bzKh-2BT7mQvH8EautuWpH1qyPLmEfAkDX58pyiNMegtA-3D-3DfUbV_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UUSKYhAnMe4-2Fia8CbMOwdQC3vGeshwumKMJVUWdJG7bgXIhgZDe24phmNOUvVdAtT1oICFPdTh9If2zlThbS4ls3ufQTjaM8uqyXZygISOFE0PqP6IocfpeU6-2B-2FqA-2BKi2Q-3D-3D)). Polymarket is reportedly eyeing an IPO by the end of 2027 ([WSJ Tech News Briefing](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOidhH335P7ful5N4ObW3DuxIHyXIHSBLB-2BPKji5HMRp18MZHJZdQZAgKeByc82s6NFqvVIOsyIsyYOoZykK9LeBcvVgUZLBVrTtzcW6SORXsw-3D-3DnL6b_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UdN0b7jXD-2FI6zWJiI3GM-2FyrzJJzfkuaqMNOyslkipVI7uTmdIhn-2FZ3KSSQuE7kV-2BG2rYohfH0FECLyAhZtk2MnX3fqlZs5J8-2FdfT20Zrn-2BlrwFHqSvJR2MSeEobW60Oxrw-3D-3D)).

## 4. The Banks: Fees Are Strong, but the Fed Just Changed the Mood

*The bullish case, from the CEOs.* On Squawk on the Street (Aug 31), Goldman Sachs CEO David Solomon said: "I think you're going to see continued strong issuance in the capital markets, you know, sustainable." He pushed back on the idea that issuance is overheated, saying that as a share of total market value, "we look like we're running a kind of 10 year average." ([Squawk on the Street](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOgOEjTkyJFm0m9Gwgh9dlxVxZDkS13lYGnLxfTp1nUZnvIwdvbpeoXKp7itzFqI05OPmo6hFvFxxrmJNGJ8cDPEEDKowxtYOw60kUascZcTlw-3D-3DFwX9_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UWj-2FeA4a75O7Czy8v0ZRdjwbahRZeFeoAXS2dvJN209Ua-2FHwUhoem6XiOEZ3tAkGQrWVFxVUqKibN4VFOA9whPH-2BafwfnAa3jj3k75YIcz2lh-2F5fi1dvw8XMCPbWvdf4zg-3D-3D))

On Fast Money (Sep 15), JPMorgan co-president Doug Petno was quoted at the Barclays conference saying the bank "is seeing robust deal activity" and expects Q3 investment banking and trading fees "to each be up in the mid to high teens." ([CNBC's "Fast Money"](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOi61qLxtZU9XLV2FL9UvYjwl6lA8oaYtAUsK7hraDOp2AZqcfEPDtrBfIQUITKDIQk5u59jmHyj849uGJar27MBbSnZFKYLkwvdJ9uwpSboEA-3D-3DhtYw_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UWz5KAjT0JHEUohchZ4SvFtqAbaNslioVbqxcnkWtbSAC-2BZfiaGisjDSJg0GuDWUtWlP05pzsgN9Em-2FDn7Dk-2FEUHB9vHqu1EAq-2Bxy5WtBEf0-2BVZh3tjkMyNcIUy6ylFxgg-3D-3D))

*But Goldman's stock was lagging.* On the same show, Goldman fell another 1% after a 4% drop the day before. One panelist noted the slide "coincides with sort of the SpaceX IPO if you overlay a chart." The logic: Goldman and Morgan Stanley depend more on investment banking than JPMorgan does, so "if there's any cooling off, that's why they would be down more." ([CNBC's "Fast Money"](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOi61qLxtZU9XLV2FL9UvYjwl6lA8oaYtAUsK7hraDOp2AZqcfEPDtrBfIQUITKDIQk5u59jmHyj849uGJar27MBbSnZFKYLkwvdJ9uwpSboEA-3D-3D279V_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UW65EkqgF-2BJX2QgGUNaL6cRcPkPvicr3bdIwlC8vADyGqoeuEPG3sZwOD2yhGRbuIeZq1m-2Fs90v41AboXs-2BSFtKoR2slNgs3SvzgkidhnLzIs8rpPUP8YQCf7NHCLNF8Tw-3D-3D))

*The cooling showed up the next day.* The Fed, under Chair Kevin Warsh, raised rates 25 basis points (0.25 percentage points) on Sep 16. On Bloomberg Intelligence's instant reaction, Bank of America's Brian Moynihan was cited saying that as rates and rate swings rose, issuers held back on planned deals, slowing capital markets activity. The panel noted bank stocks sliding on hawkish Fed messaging that implied as much as 125 more basis points of hikes by year-end. ([Bloomberg Intelligence](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOiOG5JKtMHxbivAlUzDODZ6UPEm7YBWvVp3ygYHNuF6rfTPhyaNQL38HYSrv7TQ9zM0aIGxqRBXfblAWvaYKXMaKkzn6hjEFngvHeS7EjQmqQ-3D-3DJ6Wp_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UZDiu8cvqa8y9JCzxTIJ82owLtpVLvUEkAXQB2521xLLWjrr2p-2FPRgUIgyiX2JrrZxV0UhHMFpN87yZwRiS6cHDFzn7L33KGbyr8KU6YiaRue49C39aKQu-2F5Vb6pzXfFSQ-3D-3D))

*Lloyd Blankfein named a subtler problem: AI is crowding out everything else.* On Squawk on the Street (Sep 11), the former Goldman CEO said hyperscaler borrowing is "crowding out other borrowers," and "closer to home for me, it's crowding out in a way the capital markets because, you know, go try to get the world excited about an industrial IPO today. Everybody wants the high growth expectations." ([Squawk on the Street](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjtYbfRT-2BygfutW59px4-2FeCwgSIHmdhPRs6nyJuwEufQTzly3erHQxsvw6VWFEidX-2FuhHwbNEhGbxfkB7JUKwj1bQ-2FlpvoMvoQeL7Xk-2FsaKQw-3D-3DZSY7_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UVxjA-2BZJ9lSaWd3j1dybRz24rv0JLtZSpys5qYPeMLezeb4Cft1nmctVqBgfB3bxYB-2BcVAlYQOL8RKlNbpEvy8n-2Bo5FY8i6fksjRltbnDyV1W-2F8zrPLZb2fSETk5DtYfaA-3D-3D))

*The debt side is booming for exactly that reason.* Goldman's chief credit strategist Amanda Lynam put numbers on it:

- On Alpha Exchange (Sep 23): hyperscalers (the giant cloud companies) issued $108 billion of global investment-grade debt in all of 2025, and *$229 billion through mid-September 2026*. Forecasts call for $250 billion for full-year 2026 and $400 billion in 2027, plus another $300 billion in separate data center and chip financing. ([Alpha Exchange](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjlnFjRyAItO30qenFyDLO6cFa8TaAT8o53qMj9H9fjfwZadh-2B-2BkEyV35BEDJlhbS-2B2Sue2rq8EzPbvgWRytjDNRDu8ggq1afCa21LJkP7chQ-3D-3D28f__7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UbwTPmtj13WsMghoOKeaqv6ZFGg8rjoCCVXEJSx0su9SyWav-2FT9-2FFqdZf0igMza6rUgwpwnnyJciJFbWY-2F-2FCuKaDUB7Y7EhpZwmwPOyy3gXbs3fJVtAOPseVW-2Be-2BeQjKiA-3D-3D))
- On Bloomberg Surveillance (Sep 21): nearly *$600 billion* of global AI-related debt issued so far in 2026, with private credit's $4.5 trillion of dry powder (money raised but not yet invested) also expected to play a role. ([Bloomberg Surveillance](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOhCfQy3A-2BCdW-2Fq9-2F-2FeFPgIsL1Q4M4lRM4Tlipgky9vtfjiVn1asPWPkDxuqiHx9OUOwf6PlLtqZoKG2Cny6ytt-2FsQAhy3AXu413AvSVV5VKcA-3D-3Dqsck_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UT2goEYfZI-2F9kuo69X4dlfcyN7-2B2pyGoO-2BZT54Ncf7cbLifzLbK13gLaDF4IKWE-2FDoPSGACL3qOYQNBAx97bR13y7KewdZZOWlAp9RR7vmfdKJj-2B0U2UVBz5cxvxJ6twoQ-3D-3D))

That is great business for debt underwriting (DCM) desks. It is also, as the next section shows, part of why rates keep climbing.

## 5. The Macro Backdrop: A "Credibility Hike" and a 5% 10-Year

In plain terms: the Fed raised rates to show it is serious about inflation, and long-term bond yields rose even faster. That makes every new stock or bond deal more expensive to price.

* *Why the Fed hiked.* The Rundown (Sep 14) cited August CPI at 3.4% year over year, with core CPI up 0.3% for the month ([The Rundown](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOiTu67-2BKyBPTxj30RnuAfbBP3ZfJVGgiRdoh8YNW-2FfRML7pNqQeVpNZvcu3N9nv5pIbuxLQvKNpskiYHWhsIOOb9XbAkXBNgxXu7xJL2SvccA-3D-3DlfVz_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9URvd37wy2YIQ-2FZ3nfVMcZiQEHne-2BG7A-2BIjykcqxLrygs6k-2FZrAoM-2FRe2iJWQB5Iy7J3rpXuFe9FTCN4lfD-2FhBpaXZ1kkjVF-2FYFRUSt001AgJ0CctjFi6OVqqkkZ-2FrKOZbQ-3D-3D)). On Macro Voices (Sep 17), Harley Bassman called it a trust-rebuilding move by the new chair rather than a response to runaway inflation. He pointed to stable inflation expectations in TIPS (inflation-protected Treasuries) and argued the Fed should have just done 50 basis points at once. ([Macro Voices](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOiTOfldirpnD6cVPyS2LStY6fdpR4iUwPBRzM0P6yUXSM1wuR-2FHEtN6hvnBLBYnwAwaQyA5h-2BjBpT8v7aM3ihP16So-2BSstfSaoOkOIja3YESQ-3D-3Dw1pq_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UQNbqFxZFXmGa8OzsfyJ362M56grP7yO5TwXzeOSIKnUVxe-2FzTcSc2FGXy5xBzd2-2BT3wGh3qeJlOeK0mTmQ7yecbYoCZ2UtKIUSdOzvH22IOjbikbjlH0ak7H8IN768GRg-3D-3D))
* *How fast the market flipped.* On Thoughts on the Market (Sep 16), Morgan Stanley's Global Head of Macro Strategy Matthew Hornbach said the 10-year rose from 4.25% to 5% as markets went from pricing two rate cuts to pricing four hikes. Chief US economist Michael Gapen expects at least one or two more moves. ([Thoughts on the Market](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOhHQP6CfdEj6LiUv5b9qokXzmJyKOxpidBHtM-2BAg5V8o5KQkKUIo-2Fkqe377zZ6wKfffE-2BHYf37Zb0jVHvtGZhlBeCsM1ec9ptI8LmnW8gaKfg-3D-3DmWLU_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UcgHcdZoI8JtU6kO702NXd1z-2FiBgT9lmQEqYQhhO6cmvEWeb9BpPBu9Lz78lwN-2F-2FjwQJ1Lm9R0NNuvSgfUW5EKRHf8HmNZ0yDoEelglrK04JA2JQbMz4DcW38h3pqK1qlg-3D-3D))
* *Where yields are.* Boyle cited the 10-year at *5.23%*, "the highest it's been since 2004" ([Patrick Boyle On Finance](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjpQAbw3rfG2iqZJnEBheycbzs0jvIdTyXGiJpmtxG0gulOy8ntSjUvmocZZDfpG8E8lCF9uQhbRPnlqGLcXk1eL6Qw2SWAKSEVkTvRQB7XoA-3D-3DcPhM_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UeWsvw-2F5D4XQXmZs0Cb4wgFDX9plp-2BUdJCiqumaIwGZ0GIx8k1PKcp-2FDM3h3qXTj5KJ8AyS7gKzBQHL1O0VAwUa7-2F4GKqqHVhWyRWjrpGGBjsCydSSTjLLlVV668fR403g-3D-3D)). He also quoted Renaissance Capital's Matt Kennedy calling rising rates "a double whammy" for AI names: they shrink the value of profits far in the future and make data centers more expensive to finance.
* *The AI borrowing link.* Bassman argued rates are rising partly because hyperscaler borrowing now competes directly with Treasury issuance for the same pool of money. ([Macro Voices](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOiTOfldirpnD6cVPyS2LStY6fdpR4iUwPBRzM0P6yUXSM1wuR-2FHEtN6hvnBLBYnwAwaQyA5h-2BjBpT8v7aM3ihP16So-2BSstfSaoOkOIja3YESQ-3D-3DbXRJ_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UeQqmup-2BgUdrQk86g8e1Z7Sk4STZh0gblIDKSgh0ZwB0CE-2Bg6vwGOjKjFBslzOPsGxMxjkmN1SmOLS2JYQTAQWIF0sA3SQ7hRNAh147S-2FDzTI9gxT7i85hC1pAxRQMQ-2B-2Fg-3D-3D))
* *The contrarian view.* On Bloomberg Surveillance (Sep 16), Tradition's Steven Major forecast the 10-year back near 4% within a year and said this cycle may be "one and done." ([Bloomberg Surveillance](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjttjgmcc86veH-2FaK5Yg-2FlM9KqGcxattf2fkCxJFuvHpL5EYw-2BVPMovPw1MCqHrxTvndqbBeIu-2BWILlDK2V1VuTySaHRs-2FGeg6Fce0p0uf6Vg-3D-3DqJ7Y_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UYuRZKJZZ8Nr05j-2BBAsQMFRS-2FXgX9EAPK141jZApXevvRbExwMLPtxBkTwtLHZ4zHP-2BXt3DqjyA-2FAyEhfVh5kxOb-2BZ6IFn6pk5X5LohJ-2B0uqhKi8XPS-2BKwGocmK-2BkBMMLg-3D-3D))

## 6. M&A and Antitrust: The States Are the New Regulators

The most interesting deal fight right now isn't in Washington. It's in Sacramento.

*Paramount / Warner Bros. Discovery.* California Attorney General Rob Bonta and 11 other states sued in July to block the merger.

- On Strictly Business (Sep 2), Bonta's position was that behavioral promises (commitments about future conduct), like David Ellison's pledge to release 30 films a year, aren't enough. He wants structural remedies, meaning actually separating ownership in three contested markets, before settlement talks can move forward. ([Strictly Business](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjcJaGLyUtM5j1HMobxYA9KwUaKEAsRdsJnda-2Bx-2BE-2BTp8rWMdnvUsX1UD47RZTlDR5fSAzl4ZTSFD5CKWTVbNthU6tDerv9-2Fm0c2i51scYkWg-3D-3DuKUW_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UXuwYNKujhtccwmEbjPUuVGBcbPyy0KjMPI2O6MKqOOgdfMULq81tvA5W70JC89-2Fi6ieXPTNr-2BVfJDNnHbs-2FgB9lXGHJFTtaqMfueDhyd6H9e5y47wgJUu-2Fqo6so-2BVBxaw-3D-3D))
- By Sep 21, The Rundown reported Paramount in advanced settlement talks, weighing a $1.5 billion California production investment, a pledge not to leave the state, and a promise not to sell studio lots. The Rundown put the deal at $81 billion. ([The Rundown](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOhs3Oeb-2BihM5RYG9bKsfLBv8FcUZ9NnbStHhk9gbWFMnNgKgNEFiML1aKUCaxmtIXflJJW2C1kzNyahfksidmqa-2FU85cCdQAwzdkZ25k4m8Qw-3D-3DkG-5_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UbmvMDtyxe3LRyOy8Cuakf8LXV-2FkjxlBnoyf3D2G0wl4jy357w8KuTQU4ZC9dKKOZT-2B-2FN5vnHABy5VFL3kfzGNUbrZ5VJzxt9p0avro6juIgH5Fc-2BxuwRQ0F2UlaHl9QOA-3D-3D))
- In the other direction, the Elon Musk Podcast (Sep 17) described Ellison threatening to move the studio out of California altogether, and the federal government pushing for California to post a bond to cover the costs of delaying the merger. ([Elon Musk Podcast](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOj-2B1n3GG-2BFqosBP2dMOFqQVBxHfVzjYeYNyTndCVDVVwCuXalzE-2FjHiNO2U1VmxOXQKECMtDw87dpOJzv5WAEAZosU1aRaV4Uoo3MmxtORuNg-3D-3D_aae_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UeJ1iyJLAA0I-2BcqG3YCaPkFnONObC5EO9xj-2FciF87TraUaZl91cl1OspMZn-2F2thNEsYcHIvwCHSeq8vETKC9R8FW4CroRcKVKodtAjZJ541P-2FQRP-2FvPrd-2BTse3CqsWSXaA-3D-3D))

*Nvidia buys Hugging Face for $14 billion.* The Elon Musk Podcast (Sep 3) broke it down as a $12.9 billion purchase price plus a $1 billion retention pool, for a company with about $150 million in annual revenue. That is nearly 90 times revenue. The hosts read it as defensive: owning the main open-source AI distribution hub keeps developers from being steered toward Amazon's or Google's in-house chips. They spent a lot of time on the antitrust exposure. ([Elon Musk Podcast](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOhHTsg1tZ5stNdXz41sAAesnnFQy8CjXm9NgrlEASCIguvMfYI5On8-2ByQGWGMjijKFkmTcPSEUjIVSNmlhUzS1XD7x2oTF8IUdoZBn7qeeFXg-3D-3Dpknf_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9URlCvgVLCXk0wJImdFEAuUe9-2BEClvDNzyFChpTqyiG0eOEk3o3-2BwigDwcYto4miMJzUmxc5EX4T9-2F05kEr-2FS053FsiyhFgjHgcKhbBJrCCRAzg-2FuqZIN99Eh2DFOiGH5-2BA-3D-3D))

*Big Tech cases worth tracking:*

- *Google ad tech:* Judge Brinkema rejected the DOJ's request to force a divestiture of Google's ad business, favoring changes in conduct instead. ([The Big Story](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOhxtR0gP8CYnhDp1M47KoJUZ0Jjb2WQzCjKEfpSDBoMGhI6Onv-2BuxR5qbYcphg6fRHDq2vLTTrVoDQcuuC-2FBGOyu3ES-2BJfp98P4MUZzrsqZlQ-3D-3D_hLz_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UfGDO65cGXb2tci-2BTIMvf67upDVqyEJF2-2FqcPo07A1SkF1Hr78XffyGpi49YsDmSuqmLxSHRmFvczuR6joD2TPAobJnYR2hkGQg0lFvVg2loLR2eTDaH-2FgdgvYKcImGZqg-3D-3D))
- *Amazon:* FTC Chair Andrew Ferguson laid out a case alleging hidden surcharges on Amazon's ad auctions since 2018–2019, "potentially extracting tens of billions of dollars." ([The Exchange](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOgXzqMZBBJHXM0MCgMi4FbxfDF-2F3dT1SHqjZjQxtiZd5uCbJlzXN71PrHSsSNyrnjsGfRj-2BNcYXPMok2dq26ZMEnmu0XDRcNsJsC-2F3YDXANfw-3D-3D4LUE_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UboenZVus2Itpwy5-2FitIye3axIKF2uBc-2F2y9gdXez6fsr14V1NMotW-2BVPbLE22A7QMh0IEO6WMpeKej14b7U44BxGG4ZAoefiSP1K0osIlgNuqeZGsSVjJbUUrw9-2Fn1UkQ-3D-3D))

*Private credit is heading for its own wave of mergers.* This was one of the most useful interviews of the month. On Monetary Matters (Sep 27), James Elbaor of Marlton said flatly that there is "no new money, no new capital flowing into that strategy right now." Platforms are busy handling redemption requests (investors asking for their money back). But he expects that to change: "probably starting next fiscal year, I fully expect to see a lot of merger activity within the BDC space and private credit space." BDCs, or business development companies, are listed funds that lend to mid-sized firms. ([Monetary Matters with Jack Farley](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjeElSzJa3tZ-2BDwt4-2BDnrhvowVh9z8Bge-2FU5t4A0qLezdQx2nMqVOK17CkGUgIpstP-2BtVXZpl6ATOieNyEU6y9GPXSbekakFVl72Ye30YJBEA-3D-3DsBZy_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UdsI9YjMbPZA3NweUN7HLDpnwB2nm7K99JygAwAjnk1xbVKtSTrsto5ZFlS5PP1sCnegLSPD7v05rCq1oqn4i7KpCHYkwgHpbgb-2BfYaC2YA-2FHkjNPA4-2FV2CDK9ZCiR8LaQ-3D-3D))

- He expects deals "on a NAV, possibly NAV plus" basis, meaning at or above the funds' stated asset value. He pointed to Mount Logan buying TURN at 110% of NAV and a Source Capital bid at 101%. His caveat: "where NAV is today might not be where NAV is when this all starts."
- Blackstone's BCRED has faced 10% redemption requests against a 5% cap and "an entire year of consistently quarterly markdowns." Blue Owl's OBDC "stopped offering quarterly liquidity" and is winding down. An interval fund that listed publicly "immediately traded to a 38% discount" to NAV. "That window is absolutely closed."
- The AI connection: private credit has over $500 billion of exposure to software (SaaS) companies that AI is disrupting. Elbaor also noted Goldman Sachs is bidding on a large CLO manager (CLOs are bundles of corporate loans). ([Other People's Money with Max Wiethe](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOgrz1U3n7z8xrfk9wnhH-2BhpnMP4lEoIj1TFci4m7OeJIZe5Hljp1B2McEN5cXAyeegBl81o8hMYM7WLcVzoT0Hfi4R7HQed5uYNc98KeCVz8Q-3D-3Dmp_4_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UXIILWIHVnpNLLYKM4dWgHBC0xqgS32kUIafbm1J5CJ-2Fuy-2FkRkida6s5xzd9PfCCvNAa4m52LbK01Xhspyi1T3qV4SehWWJ0ZbGe-2FihxND0kbOg-2BDXtcQkhNGzLQ2uAJjQ-3D-3D))

## 7. Prediction Markets: A Circuit Split and a Supreme Court Fight

*The legal fight.* On Unchained (Sep 2), the hosts walked through the ruling that may send prediction markets to the Supreme Court. The Ninth Circuit ruled 3–0 that Nevada can enforce its gambling laws against Kalshi's sports contracts. Judge Ryan Nelson called them "a quintessential form of gambling outside the CFTC's purview." That directly conflicts with the Third Circuit's April ruling in New Jersey that Kalshi is regulated by the CFTC (the federal derivatives regulator). ([Unchained](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOikRsRSVnu-2F-2BfKbQ7TIBvqZMF96iN4cT01bK5JU-2FL0HWavg7I9sj00S-2FRw1-2BtDpqxAwttWpZPS2AGy386Qyc5kTc11bcWyNXs-2FgImbIQGJ9JA-3D-3DA9Y6_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UdgaACdL8EA6A-2FpQ2rnyxp-2BEbl-2FcOcCSyZJs13rZgt5a0RqHj0CpbfVVRpGiiUSz5lxoSgRwfwYXNzAtbHXBqfAsBsYyLbNO3-2BvZe-2FExwMFljhyhk2re4SEvYuR0RSrxmQ-3D-3D))

> "That is catnip for the Supreme Court in the number one way that they end up taking cases. Because to say the exact same federal law means this here, but something different over here is the exact thing they are meant to guard against." ([Unchained](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOikRsRSVnu-2F-2BfKbQ7TIBvqZMF96iN4cT01bK5JU-2FL0HWavg7I9sj00S-2FRw1-2BtDpqxAwttWpZPS2AGy386Qyc5kTc11bcWyNXs-2FgImbIQGJ9JA-3D-3DxDgl_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UWTbFL-2FOn-2BnfmqVGdU13Po2cT7KDGtZkqahPMU3Blm8QNP3xsRdWn-2FNYcvjteccJXF-2FYPTdILfhhdc2wsg5jELIARepjja9bqyNZLyyNPOvOo7Kj8A5LrblY7iyENbS53Q-3D-3D))

A CFTC spokesman pushed back that "a derivative contract structured as a swap is a swap regardless of the underlying subject matter." Robinhood and Crypto.com face similar Nevada suits, and roughly 20 states are now in litigation. Kalshi's Andy Ross said volume is still growing week over week, with 10,000 markets, up from 4,000 six months earlier. ([Unchained](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOikRsRSVnu-2F-2BfKbQ7TIBvqZMF96iN4cT01bK5JU-2FL0HWavg7I9sj00S-2FRw1-2BtDpqxAwttWpZPS2AGy386Qyc5kTc11bcWyNXs-2FgImbIQGJ9JA-3D-3DOH4o_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UebGBtde3HtTB6Upw3FsXGst5yNjV82-2FNgiWlUdGTPpJ5whgbC483LF8xrIriU-2BE-2FcriRGL7i-2BtC-2BD5ew5Hfkd2aTOHhh1yiOshTKPSgMi4fvY83lP93XayTPgA2Yi-2FO1A-3D-3D))

*Kalshi is growing past event contracts.* Chief Risk Officer Udesh Jha told Bloomberg Businessweek (Sep 14) that Kalshi has launched 24/7 gold and silver perpetual futures. These are futures with no expiry date, so traders never have to "roll" into a new contract. It is also seeking approval for about 60 single-stock perpetuals on companies worth $100 billion or more, including Tesla, Apple and Nvidia. That puts it in direct competition with offshore crypto venues like Hyperliquid and, over time, with traditional exchanges. ([Bloomberg Businessweek](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOgyhccE7sEoREeI0NzfrrW9RB-2ByV9Mx7thUUAecOIggCmc6bXfu5YQoWV0EbMTCkWG0FeAOEn3qK86WEB5E3yo5JK-2B5msmb4pcXki-2BwCVVl3w-3D-3DTbqk_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9USV2b0Hj-2F-2FdtymL84AvRbVZZHpYQ3WMOc8nA941W6-2BTE68gyLIShyqf7uyXaMsJbfNviBlIHbJei9zDXE8yUI9-2FqoI4gB-2BQp03td7Yxkyah-2FFM-2FWin212leiiljbt-2FRezw-3D-3D))

*Polymarket is spending big.*

- The WSJ Tech News Briefing (Sep 22) described a company that has prioritized growth over compliance. It is facing a CFTC investigation and state lawsuits, and has now hired risk and investigations staff, including a former FBI agent, as it eyes an IPO by the end of 2027. ([WSJ Tech News Briefing](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOidhH335P7ful5N4ObW3DuxIHyXIHSBLB-2BPKji5HMRp18MZHJZdQZAgKeByc82s6NFqvVIOsyIsyYOoZykK9LeBcvVgUZLBVrTtzcW6SORXsw-3D-3D1AfD_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UWXVT4din6NnA-2Byhe22dNLy-2B3vSL9zCHOol-2FLDBqK1rku0AN1r69AVQgZ-2BfA1bGPI3yahAZieY1OGz-2B9YENqO7i66QRnXteAcT8pnSlHNp0JMDM0MA8BpEu4Ec4Bygllow-3D-3D))
- The Elon Musk Podcast (Sep 18) reported LeBron James signed a $15 million-a-year Polymarket endorsement, more than the $4 million it said he earns from the 76ers. ([Elon Musk Podcast](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOizGLDD0q-2BsBEz4NKZvU77FKbHqklU3T5CWR1q8V76tlle-2Bb9koonp9PXYrRyMKp-2FoyZ5VyBvSJ4WdtwzNad6E6Ei2r9mN6pfPhZARJzSkuKw-3D-3DEC8C_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9Ub8KU7sfrMIQcfE6LxQesYeRB-2BeTmssUnABvlHPBizOCPGDzh7w829HbS-2FBWOZY-2Fr-2FwuuzYsAnxPgl23bED1JrhlLSmB56T9T6sD-2BSNDbIXWpmAsLN6cN2xqS7Xv5QFwCg-3D-3D))

*Insider trading is the soft spot.*

- Rich Habits (Sep 4): the CFTC alleged former congressman George Santos made $17,000 betting on his own attendance at the State of the Union. Kalshi handed down its first-ever lifetime ban plus a $71,000 fine. ([Rich Habits Podcast](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOifxwpGbzfrCn3rfXNJtcPt09-2BRz3f-2F-2B1P7mw4u8NjeD9od8346sC4Q1A3DDu0rFbsqMCyhgmGiMUVevBfGKkokSojClpfQbSHY4Od92DV5TA-3D-3DSSyW_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9Ub5HiouQvERymxNn-2BWMVAm07rzNGRIYxdVKUrn4MNTKVZepoR-2Bfg8K4BQeRm1kV6RuqcgEesxhJNMlESKwxo6wJ7PJhLny3mTi5NyALmbA4REy08EP4avUvlxP-2FBCwFxMw-3D-3D))
- On Friends That Invest (Sep 28), the host cited 5+ million monthly active users on Kalshi, and said 7 in 10 users lose money, with 67% of profits going to a small group. ([Friends That Invest](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOghIk1CCuVpXILgsZEkFApszCUVEAw9KMgmLjCvjhqRhk4-2FC0p-2B28fCNUylIjEHHteqcAwfLw2dvrorEepf4OL-2FA-2BTvqbuPoKEiyntKE3KT2g-3D-3Dd6Qw_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UQVYoLn2ZY9Sp-2Bsk2ZS767nJSyqeSWZbriA-2BOWleDdqQZfUowRCWEul4vkr6Z6Pe-2FvYSpnLN6QESye5ZFdjaqNCcQA-2FHnRZdOTl6MG6dbEFPXZyYUfhkMXd2XjbC8kESqw-3D-3D))

*The sportsbooks feel it.* On Prime Suspects (Sep 22), a bookmaker said sharp bettors are moving money to prediction markets because betting limits there are looser. Another speaker said Kalshi and Polymarket pull "huge sports volume out of New York without paying taxes," though he questioned whether the threat is overstated given their limited betting menus. ([Prime Suspects](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOiRNGL0tJQ2Smr-2BdLG-2F8Fc0DJg-2B1Vu4O2Oxrv0ahQ-2FWft87c2wzDfMjeFEAdsy3T3ctMqn-2BocCp12RuPTRFdVirTpJs-2F-2F3Y1mpq-2FmvHmk-2BC9A-3D-3DtL4F_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UcMQOkf3vzW89R8yOZGX-2FIMY-2Fzmg4Bg6pm9WifJnLHP8VczsAw3KCgMeMP7tdcLJuufIcW6oaaMCGOqlcaofflc6g0f6vkL9cBZyQcex6ES2duNzAF1xnCb2hYvVoKoe5Q-3D-3D))

## 8. Exchanges and Brokers: New Products, and a Fight Over "Tokenized" Stocks

*CME is turning AI computing into a commodity.* On Energy Gang (Sep 8), CME's Pete Keevey described new Compute Futures, contracts for renting AI chip time. They settle in cash against Silicon Data's H100 chip price index, run as monthly contracts (730 hours as standard), and list 36 months out. His pitch for why an exchange helps: "transparency, liquidity, and forward pricing." The spot market for chip rentals, spread across more than 200 cloud providers, has none of those today. ([Energy Gang](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOiOEZu1cE-2BdhA84m0Q-2F0rbn6gZNycv7sZTVY-2FzoCSXl1Pi54vro2ZncDH-2F4qIPedB1-2FyKGlXTl35f2GfMbXuUDO4L7uGWJ4LI3-2FL140-2BeW-2BKQ-3D-3DTNqk_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9Ud-2FwMzcA3MW261YCJhBVVnhZcm2W-2Bmp5s7csEwBrKMCBymSbTVzUXkUDCBZL05W9ZEtDaAMa3iZd76nbt-2BfqWobtaAAOTyXjhBp4-2BAoetCiHUp5cEsXW5pI27d4rzDCMHg-3D-3D))

*CME single-stock futures are finding a market.* This Week in Futures Options (Sep 11) reported more than 200,000 contracts traded in about a month and a half: roughly 65,000 standard and 135,000–140,000 micro, across 55 standard and 22 micro contracts on names like Apple, Nvidia and Tesla. The hosts said spreads (the gap between buy and sell prices) are as tight as, or tighter than, the stocks themselves. ([This Week in Futures Options](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOgmkRJhUauqXomTYQcdE4fFjWqAa8PE2zrMNur2nVG6Efi4wwlcjiYcZXLep3IVgijcBWuNRCztC1dr7bH4aAT8wv3-2BOlD-2BticsiyE8VfWpuQ-3D-3Deu4K_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9Uc54xXDkjB4s-2Bta1MHIx7FawxMwnV30XXBhv-2BRe62Ru-2BZ93mLBp3eOYZDbrJSKmgG7SVlC-2FzeDxlAWnbSscDdNeeCFbGhsbkKRa0fkNH3nxMwHQEq4kKU-2BQbESO2dHu3oQ-3D-3D))

*0DTE options now dominate trading.* 0DTE options are contracts that expire the same day they are traded. On The Options Insider (Sep 17), 28% of Nasdaq-100 options flow that week expired the same day and another 26% the next day, "a very heavy load." In E-mini S&P futures options, the most active next-day contract (the 7,600 puts) traded 43,000 times. ([The Options Insider Radio Network](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOhLEF6dCe9NHj5KEoGNVZFtMH2fu27fa-2Bm8jJGd20N9KVomkkjh-2BTQ-2FgtuvyQIbXEhOwa3bTdZzZseNX4hFp-2FFuFUscx9ccx6b9OjJiNhbwkg-3D-3DmfPb_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UZKkoWhl1gHMV6lOa6q5y4Ufhor4CWxUkKZRbPSHBwJ4-2Fm7iKhG4BVmZtjpt8oujMVaLZAFYWgpyAcnUAMz0D1rADo6LzHk2NVHuAHQhowuFuPjGyFTUIC0wu6LEFfIsiA-3D-3D))

*Robinhood: a financial super app with a blockchain attached.*

- On CFO Thought Leader (Aug 30), Robinhood's CFO described the business as "number one in market share and options and number two on equities and gaining." The episode summary cited $5 billion of annual recurring revenue, $3 billion of EBITDA, and 13 business lines each above $100 million. ([CFO THOUGHT LEADER](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjiNW-2FWLnLixtFanGnEGitK4Fpl0AQKe1bky3Fh6aEKOOteyxd58Q7FPOYOjePzPBr-2FK9nHoAw47nyNJs3cAwrHO-2BoIwyyvHDFlUD9eo5pXSw-3D-3DqOJY_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9Udkx11FTPTHHp7rcm6EpWgOXECR1fItr5rEf8Y3mgpvTv8tF4C5o2dzM73vU8BVSB-2Bypt9gzgARWZ3Adcd8FpGaUVR9piv3AuSZPQ1c5kOrT4PKJPyJevFGQuMN1vTWiRA-3D-3D))
- On 0xResearch (Sep 16): Robinhood Chain, its own blockchain network, has generated about $50 million in cumulative revenue, and crypto volumes rose 60% month over month in August. ([0xResearch](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOgwRnLvisyjpUK-2BI1LPk-2BV2jrWQRGBLFVsUE-2Bx5OqnuGXSnGSofpw6CZ-2FgWQ3hBlteZ9zhaQ2j4LWNuCkGrMa7Rji0IXjkYh1YoLx69XqDEUA-3D-3DltQ1_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UYufF2dq8hz-2B4BS6RH4lsA-2BYgkyZN3nqisQ2NQeeeIIVQ7mM93L7UIht5zAlFavduTsrJVwuBM-2BUm0WJv4Sytjv1weL1rFTWbAuzmz3AtUHiMZXo6U-2Ftw-2FFdSRPWS3Ofhw-3D-3D))

*The AMC fight.* AMC CEO Adam Aron called Robinhood's tokenized AMC shares "vile" and demanded they stop. Tokenized shares are blockchain tokens that track a real stock. Robinhood's chief legal officer Dan Gallagher, a former SEC commissioner, replied that "we know a little something about the U.S. securities laws." Unchained (Sep 9) put the tokenized stock market at $13.4 billion, with exposure separated from voting rights. ([Unchained](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOiKImnmcKWQkyOGgVoDRjRnKyT-2Bd4a0fbLhTBD72zGMjGsj8ilh9p507YrsJD60COUFKDlJBdB2r2thgFLg4YiQl4vbhzikQ26tsjShHixqog-3D-3DYp66_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UTLin-2BnhSvhRntzf41RZMdt-2B0Z4Pn2lJntBBy9pf6yN4qJPuoGGSoy7sl4S81HTdtG7oMtz5KEfrDvH6lsDtBKOgNcL1dqBS7L632VBn0cxr1qlq-2B1KYXrzSXW8Gf2ixMQ-3D-3D))

Matt Levine gave the clearest explanation on Money Stuff (Sep 11). Robinhood's tokens "are backed by AMC stock. Like Robinhood buys the stock and then sells tokens representing that stock to foreign investors because like securities law, the US implications are not like entirely settled yet." He sided with Robinhood's Vlad Tenev against the "powerful intuition that like only a company can create shares of its own stock." ([Money Stuff: The Podcast](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjcSeAc47ADhP4rSnmecu3HypQbK9u3RWmC9FdS9sS-2FlxZlnapyPwV4hvYTqanPPYEU6L17LrfZ7dckpidMbu9HaaQCDZyxgnzVoyxcb5mG1g-3D-3DLl36_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UcIwWUdBlhrjxaA4cVTLHpNJdhLWe04wYrxcT4pXEqE72l7HrkSfWn6QWUekEV4IVkmDubQjO5ovzyaJIg3OGwlYUVUQTk7IqG-2FewERXY1d7B3Mdv6uKA9r4ZoI6-2FgVcOw-3D-3D))

*LSEG is going on-chain too.* On Tokenized (Sep 7), LSEG's head of securities digitization Darko Hedukovic described tokenizing stocks through a partnership with Kraken's xStocks and the LSE24 trading venue. He also described LSEG's Digital Securities Depository, which is built to preserve shareholder rights, the very thing critics say Robinhood's tokens lack. ([Tokenized](http://url7324.matterfact.com/ls/click?upn=u001.idHmPrr2Geh7KYLAsTy7NkrIVb-2FgA4pmf2rMXQwGcOjvvl4LdNm05tN-2FOFQFK-2BOWhVtWXwHrBvttYJggXtCr-2B-2B3-2FbYkdBaxBm0ZVVENAMpkkNbP8tZYZw8naDrjCo5vA-2BSN-2FjRY8ToSf2C-2BINScwNg-3D-3DTyi3_7mLGwmUci-2BLaXswv9WX1yTgqn3Wad-2FotHhzHgSNAZbVjL6u9wcqJp2ZvwkK8MWugX5q4wJ-2BfbfkuCMGGCBP9UWdtLOOgTMDjWQf3drGrp8hdNPZvbc5LrOS3y6E4FskquICJ8VXxg-2BjVMbKycfOIj49gvLd-2FzyazJx1V9YMkTiCh0OiTrnUDmuxl8XYfzw03hkjpvi1cC17PXbiTeeV-2BJQ-3D-3D))

## What to Watch Next

* *Anthropic's public S-1.* Its risk factors, the super-voting share decision, and whether the price moves toward Chamath's "one or less" or stays near $2 trillion.
* *Oura's pricing,* expected next week. A strong debut would show the market still rewards profitable, subscription-driven growth, even with Treasuries paying 5%.
* *Q3 bank earnings in mid-October.* Whether JPMorgan's "mid to high teens" fee guidance holds, and whether Goldman and Morgan Stanley show the post-hike slowdown Moynihan described.
* *The Fed's next move.* Whether this was "one and done" (Major) or the first of several (Gapen, and a market that briefly priced 125 more basis points).
* *A Supreme Court petition in Kalshi v. Nevada,* and Kalshi's single-stock perpetuals application.
* *Paramount–California settlement terms.* They set the template for how state attorneys general extract structural remedies.
* *BDC mergers.* Elbaor's "next fiscal year" call, and whether the NAV marks hold when deals get priced.

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